Climate change has been endlessly debated. Is it happening? Are humans causing it? How bad is it going to get? What should we do about it? In this podcast a climate scientist and clinical psychologist team up to tackle the topic that’s missing from the climate conversation: how do you learn to live with it?

Whether you’re an energy worker who’s facing the loss of your job and ability to provide for your family, a youth activist afraid of what the future holds, or a nature-lover grieving the rapid ongoing destruction of our biosphere - we sit down with world-leading experts on climate change and the energy transition to explore the thoughts and feelings that keep them up at 2 A.M., and talk about how they manage them productively.

No political agenda. No alarmism. Just open, fact-based conversation about what it means to be a human being living on a changing planet. New episodes weekly!